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First Look At Idris Elba In “Ghost Rider: Spirit Of Vengeance”

First Look At Idris Elba In "Ghost Rider: Spirit Of Vengeance"

Here’s your first look at Idris Elba as Moreau, the French alcoholic monk in Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance (I can already hear the cries of some of you folks who’ll ask, “why does the black man have to be an alcoholic?” See, I’m one step ahead of ya; I already asked the question, so you don’t have to ask it again :))

Anyway… the film will see Johnny Blaze, aka Ghost Rider (Nicholas Cage), “hiding out in remote Eastern Europe and struggling to repress his curse. Blaze is recruited by a sect to take on the devil (Ciaran Hinds), who wants to take over his mortal son’s body on the kid’s birthday.

The flick opens on February 17th, 2012. I didn’t at all care for the first Ghost Rider movie, so I won’t be in any hurry to see this sequel.


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Spiderman, Green Lantern, Captain America or X-Men

I guess my thinking was more in the vein of characters who aren’t so heroic or noble—an overall of those type comic-book heroes who in spite of settings or origin all have some major complex, some need/desire/compulsion to do good or eeevil. Flawed human beings in spite of race are still flawed human beings…in spite of race.

“John Stewart” (Green Lantern) and “Lucius Fox” (Batman), the exception? Not necessarily disenfranchised individuals prior to their superheroism or closeness to (in the case of Fox) superheroes… Okay, so maybe Fox isn’t the right example to have, but Stewart fits! LOL

Idris here, Smith as “Hancock”…with their alcoholism still represent a character struggling with deeper issues. The human condition on display here, overcoming, doing good, yadda, yadda, yadda.

From wikipedia:

Former stuntman Blaze is then approached by Moreau, a member of the monastic order of Michael, the warrior angel. Moreau seeks a protector for a mother and son duo who are being pursued by a figure named Roarke – a fellow with a detailed knowledge of the Ghost Rider and his different identities over the centuries.

He’s a monk.

An alcoholic monk is more interesting than a monk. Again, makes him more ‘human’ (and less boring and 1000x more interesting…well maybe 10x more). ;-)


@ Tamara

I am aware that “heroes” have aplenty of flaws in mainstream films that Hollyweird dishes out on a regular basis. What I don’t understand is the “Black guy” always has to deal with these “issues” like; living in a disfranchised neighborhood, drugs and alcohol, debt, unable to support his children etc.

When I watch Spiderman, Green Lantern, Captain America or X-Men the main characters of these films don’t have serious “issues”.


Lol, I laughed when I saw that picture. Anyway, the first film was absolutely awful and I don’t plan on seeing this one.


@ Mecca, “Does the Black guy have to have a major flaw?”

how about does the hero always have to have a major flaw? YES. Don’t most “heroes” and/or “anti-heroes” have major flaws?

It lends to humanity to these extraordinary beings. Brings these demigods a bit closer to ‘us’…to me, anyway. All except Captain Planet. He’s just super lame and made from polar ice, tree bark, rainbows and daffodils.

@ Adam, shades of gray, inDEED and *golf clap* to your entire comment.

Adam Scott Thompson

The first thing they teach you about characterization as a screenwriter is this: Characters are defined by flaws.

It’s the flaw(s) that causes the character to respond to a story development in a particular way, often further complicating the plot and thus making the narrative more interesting.

When examining a flaw, you have to ask yourself a couple of questions. Is the flaw attached to race? Like, is Idris Elba’s character an alcoholic because he’s black? The blacks in “Birth of a Nation” were flawed because they were black, not because they were human — that’s the way the book’s (“The Klansman”) author and his adapters wanted it.

Second, was the role written specifically for a black actor? “Man on Fire” was a remake of the 1987 original starring Scott Glen (coincidentally, he and Denzel shared screen time in “Training Day”). The Tony Scott update featured Denzel as an alcoholic mercenary who takes a job protecting a young girl from kidnapping. His flaw humanizes him but it also raises the stakes because — as he admits in the film — his drinking hinders his focus, motor control and reaction time.

We spend so much (wasted) time discussing movie roles in terms of black and white that we forget that all great characters are a shade of gray.


LOL @ Ghost Rider 2, is anyone still watching Nick Cage movies?

Donnie Leapheart

While I think Idris Elba is great and all, but is he the only working Negro in Hollywood right now? Based on all the projects he’s attached to, doesn’t seem like there are any other male black actors in their 40s.


If he didn’t have a flaw, then he’s labeled the “magical negro.” Can he just be a flawed human, alcoholic or not?

As far as this movie is concerned, I don’t care because I didn’t watch the first one and I didn’t hear great things about it either.


Well, anybody can be an alcoholic.

Will Smith played a African-American alcoholic in “Hancock”. When I saw it I was like huh? Hold up! Wait a minute here. WHY? Does the Black guy always have to have a major flaw?

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