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Looks like a good movie… Can not wait until it comes out…


He cast some strong actors and actresses (minus TP, and Brian White)!


Damn. There is some serious hate against Tyler on this post. And I can't say it hasn't been warranted in the past. BUT, hasn't the sentiment also been that folks didn't like what he was putting out & asked-screw that, cried out from the soul-that he make better films? I mean, folks go see OBSESSED, BELLY, TROIS & STATE PROPERTY I &, unbelievably, II and those are dreadful films-top to bottom. Is he going to make a WHAT'S LOVE GOT TO WITH IT?, PARIAH, DAUGHTERS OF THE DUST-reeeally doubtful. But in an attempt to make better films, isn't there anything of merit in this latest trailer? Again, I say that judging it on it's own look, not because of who made it or what his last films were about (in so far as only to say his craft has gotten better). I too, cringed at the 5th generation reference, while there are Black Yale grads dating back to the late 1800s (1870s to be exact), it was really weak & contrived writing. So what? You think anything in Keenan Ivory Wayan's MOST WANTED wasn't contrived? LOL When he first started, Brad Pitt was a terrible actor. So was Halle Berry. They've worked & became respectable, if not damn good (jury is still out on Halle LOL). Can Tyler not do the same? Is that not what we're asking of him? It seems that the vitriol here is more about what he represents & ultimately proves his point when he said about Spike "Hey brotha, if you want me to make a better film. Come talk to me. Tell me how". Doesn't that start with some truly constructive criticism, instead of a final condemnation of the man & his skill forever & ever? I don't like his films, I don't like Madea-but I can give credit where credit is due-even if it still needs a lot of work. Adam Sandler is probably one of THE worst comedians working today, sitting on top of a movie empire stack 'o' cash for no good reason so far as I can see. I laugh sometimes at some of his stuff, but the sun shines on a dogs ass some days. I can give that credit and at the same time say the rest of his shit sucks. Folks can't even give Tyler that! I'm just asking, is there nothing about this trailer that at least says "Okay, it is typical Hollywood trite fare?" which really, is a definite step up for much of his stuff. I wasn't bothered either way as a Black person-which usually happens with is films. He looks to have come up to a ground floor standard in his filmmaking. Maybe he can go higher & make more quality stuff?


JEEPERS CREEPERS BLEEPERS! FROM THE SUBLIME TO THE RIDICULOUS: The Attack of The Haters In Sheep's Clothing. On the 12th day before Christmas, my true love sent to me, a sublime statement in a pear tree — "I'm noticing a definite growth of production values in Tyler's films. Pretty cool". On the 11th day before Chrismas someone said to thee — "Not that bad. But I'm sure the haters will be with us in 3-2-1". Oh lord, on the 10th day before Christmas they showed up — yes in deed, one two and three; Three French hens, Two turtle doves, And a partridge in a pear tree — "This rant so isn't even about Tyler Perry BUUUUUT, this is probably super nit-picky, but this is the kind of detail that I always pay way too much attention to. He's fifth generation Ivy? Like, FIFTH???" … "CC you're absolutely right. I don't mind Tyler Perry's ambition but his lack of craft is frightening" … "That 5th generation Ivy League BS line turned me off immediately. What is he, a blueblood?". (2 Turtle doves)– " I say X_X" … "And I say "Lowbrow". Now the Big Coon Hunter in the haters tree, he huffed and he puffed until it all falls down — "I call it "Regina King-Sanna Lathan-Taraji P. Henson-Jennifer Hudson,-etc.-Disease" and "Your attempts to defend TP make no sense — they have no logic — they're just raw, funky, ghetto displays of stank attitude" and "You think TP's gonna come and rescue you and your baby(ies) from that single mother squalor of your single room apartment in the urban jungle in which you currently reside with your good-for-nothing-poor-excuse-of-a-boyfriend?" and "You Tyler Perry people kill me! This means you, CareyCarey!Jeeeeez!". Well folks, so goes another day in S & A and and a partridge in a pear tree… "Akimbo | December 15, 2011,

@U OF I ALUM: What. The. Fuck?"

Leon Breckenridge

I think I love my wife meets daddy little girls. Wow….


The trailer is going for a Seven Pounds, Pursuit of Happyness, self-important Will Smith flick vibe from the trailer, but I've read the script. It isn't even that. Very little to this story; matter fact, from the trailer, you have just about all of it.


WOW!! U OF I Alum you really dont know what the hell you're talking about. Obiviously TP knows what he is doing and understands his audience because if he didn't, he wouldn't be working right now. As for the "disease" statement you made, maybe you didn't see Taraji P Henson in Benjamin Button or her new show Point of Interest. I was also fortunate to see Sanaa Lathan's play "By the way, meet Vera Stark" and she did a great job!! It's not the actors or actresses fault that directors aren't giving them better roles and your comment made it seem like they are the ones who have a problem (disease). Also there is No WAY IN HELL that all of these thoughts just came into your head after watching this trailer. So you've had a dislike for Tyler perry before coming to this page and yet you decided to watch the trailer and pay attention to what he's doing.(but you dont like him).If you dont like him or have a problem, then stop viewing things about him or with him in it….Move the Hell Around!!


Okay, this is probably super nit-picky, but this is the kind of detail that I always pay way too much attention to. He's fifth generation Ivy? Like, FIFTH???

Okay, so if he's, let's say 32, then he graduated from his (undergrad) Ivy in 2000. Assuming every former ivy leaguer in his fam had children the day they graduated college (so maybe some prodigy graduated really young and someone stayed for advanced degrees, but on average, let's say age 22, so 22 times 4 generations, so 88 yrs before 2000), then the first graduated around 1918 and began in 1914.

Now this is a fairly conservative estimate, given that as time went on and social norms changed, they were likely having families later, after working for a few years (yes, they may have had housewives to stay at home and raise the kids, but still). As well, as time went on, they were increasingly likely to get MBAs, law degrees etc. So the first generation was probably in college even EARLIER! Very close to 1900! Maybe even before! And they were, ummm, like. . . black. . . And you know, ummmm, U.S. history.

Little things like this drive me CRAZY. How does that even make sense? Yes, it's POSSIBLE. But, really? Is it really being used to illustrate the specialness of his family? Or is it just lazy writing? It's like, you're just saying things that SOUND good, without thinking them out for even a second. I mean, it's not central to your enjoyment of the movie or anything, but it was the FIRST LINE in the trailer. . .

Okay, the first black student graduated from Harvard in 1870, but Princeton, 1947 (Thanks Google!). So yes, it's possible. But, between 1870 and 1947, do you thing there were very very many black ivy leaguers (hell, college students AT ALL), or very very few? And hey, maybe the first ivy grad in his family was white? And he's of mixed heritage. Totally possible!

I don't CARE if he really is 5th generation, if the movie makes that seem like a realistic possibilty, great! BUT: It's like the writer has just seen tons of dramas about well-off, well-bred men and just wrote some shit down. (He or she could have just taken a second to think, hey! maybe I should say third generation?)

***Exaggerated Sigh****
This rant so isn't even about Tyler Perry, or this movie. And there's probably a much more relevant case to illustrate this point. It's about movies that don't stick to the logic of the world they're depicting/have created- in this case, the real world. This is the reason I get all worked up watching sci-fi/fantasy, historical fiction and in this case even contemporary stuff. Because the logic is not tight. It's just, as I said, lazy.

However, I LOVE when they prove me wrong and I hope if I ever get around to redboxing this movie, they've created a character and scenario which makes this voiceover not completely ridiculous. Because a black 5th gen ivy graduate WOULD be an interesting character. I'm sure several actually do exist in real life. But it's really not a stock character you just throw around, you know?




But what choice does Gabrielle Union have? Most high profile roles for women go to a white actress not a black actress. Also, Gabrielle is 38 years old and she's a black actress. I think people make it seem so easy but it is not. Maybe these black romantic comedies pay Gabrielle's bills and that's all she cares about? I don't see anyone giving black women quality work or challenging work these days. Even Halle Berry's got it bad she's starring in crap like New Years Eve and Dark Tide.

Tyler Perry is not sexy I admit this, and I don't think he's that good an actor. I am not sure two beautiful women like Gabrielle or Thandie's characters would want Tyler Perry. But this is what


I like Tyler but even I have to admit, I think he is miscast BUT this is where power comes in. It is Tyler's movie so he can do whatever the hell he wants.

I agree that Gabrielle Union is typecast she plays the same character over and over again and again. The only movie I ever saw which Gabrielle played against type was the 2005 indie film Neo Ned which Gaby won awards for. Unfortunately, a distributor did not pick up Neo Ned because it was a movie about a black woman thinking she was Hitler falling in love with a Neo Nazi. The storyline was just too controversial I guess.

I like Thandie Newton but she's a black actress so she takes work where ever she can get it. People seem to think because Thandie is British she can pick and choose roles. You would think so but that is not the case. I also think Thandie must like Tyler's work because this is his second movie she's appeared in.


I'm I the only one who thinks the trailer looks a lot like the 1989 french film Romuald and Juliette (Mama, There's a Man in Your Bed – American title).


Co-sign with those who feel an actual STRONG SEXY MALE lead would have helped this production greatly AND Gabrielle Union and co. are lazy/unlucky in their acting choices because black actresses haven't been challenged in a minute.

Adam Scott Thompson



This film looks decent, I am just shocked that he couldn't find a male actor to play this role. That doesn't make sense to me


ALRIGHT NOW… i'M GONNA CUSS BECAUSE i FEEL SO DAMN GOOD! Tyler is bringing that good sh*t!!! OooooWeeee, Good Golly Miss Molly, he done jacked up his slacks and brought his "A" game. See, that's what I'm talking about, out of the mouth of babes and sucklings hast thou ordained strength because of thine enemies, that thou mightest still the enemy and the avenger. Yes sir, slap the devil and all praise to the man of the hour, TYLER PERRY! That boy is doing like it's 2099.


can't say that it looks like a winner, but definitely glad he's trying to expand his audience. I'm sure only Ms. Newton's performance will keep me entertained.


definitely looks like his most coherent film, but it still looks bland and predictable. for a tyler perry movie, it looks okay, but within the context of the rest of cinema: womp womp.


Looks well made. Straight forward narrative. I like that. It does seem to be missing something. I think it isn't compelling enough, the concept, and from what little I saw of the trailer, I doubt whether it will exceed my expectations. But this just may be one of Tyler Perry's best films, in the vein of The Family that Preys as they are the rarity for him — meaning not adapted from one of his plays.


Say what you will, this man Knows. His. Brand. And I'm noticing a definite growth of production values in his films. Pretty cool.


Not that bad. But I'm sure the haters will be with us in 3-2-1.


I usually don't bash Tyler films. But for this film, I can't. I rather see his comedies.

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