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Let’s Talk 2013 Oscars – Surprises? Disappointments? Gaffes? Props? Ho-Hum? (Open Thread)

Let's Talk 2013 Oscars - Surprises? Disappointments? Gaffes? Props? Ho-Hum? (Open Thread)

I had a bit of fun live-tweeting and *Facebooking* the Oscars last night, and I thank all of you who participated, and gave what could’ve been an otherwise dull evening, some life.

The biggest surprise for me was all the recognition that Life of Pi received – especially Ang Lee winning for Best Director. I didn’t see that coming at all! But it was a nice surprise. I was almost sure that it would go to either David O. Russell or Quentin Tarantino, and was glad that neither of them won it. In fact, I was especially pleased that neither Silver Linings Playbook nor Django Unchained won the Best Picture Oscar. You all alreay know how I feel about Django, so I won’t rehash, and I think even Tarantino winning for Best Original Screenplay was rubbish. Even some die-hard fans of the movie agree that the 3rd act is shoddy. Not good enough for a Best Original Screenplay.

Mark Boal should’ve won that award for Zero Dark Thirty.

But Silver Lininings Playbook, I thought was one of the most over-rated films of 2012. The appeal is completely lost on me.

I’d say the same thing about Argo as well, but it won Best Picture so what do I know, right? Showing some nationalistic pride there perhaps; throw in the fact that Michelle Obama, the First Lady Of these United States announced it.

With Argo winning Best Picture, it was even more surprising to see Zero Dark Thirty, another film about American political/governmental success in *enemy territory,* practically shut out. Maybe the more realistic of the 2 films. It split an award for Sound Editing! That’s it!

I couldn’t help but feel for Kathryn Bigelow. Zero Dark Thirty was, without question, one of the best films I saw in 2012, especially at that level. But maybe because it was a bit TOO real for some (in terms of its depictions of torture successfully-used as a tool to extract information at a time of war), and shutting it out last night was a way to send a message without literally sending a message.

I was really disappointed that Beasts Of The Souther Wild didn’t win a single Oscar. Nothing! It’s especially even more frustrating when you consider that it was also nearly shut out at the Indie Spirit Awards the night before – an awards show that it really shoul have dominated, but lost in all the major categories it was nominated for, thanks to a movie that shouldn’t have been nominated for any Indie Spirit Awards in the first place – Silver Linings Playbook – essentially a Hollywood studio movie. If Beasts had cleaned up at the Indie Spirit Awards as it should have, last night’s shut out at the Oscars wouldn’t have been as disappointing to me. It was certainly one of the most imaginative films I saw in all of 2012, and was a stronger film than half of the 10 films nominated for Best Picture.

As for black artists who were nominated, I’m not surprised that neither of them won. Denzel Washington was in a tough category, and I was certain Daniel Day-Lewis would win Best Actor. And even though I was rooting for Quvenzhane Wallis in the Best Actress category, realistically, I just didn’t think she had a shot – not with the actresses she was going up against anyway.

And speaking of Ms Wallis, I’d be remiss if I didn’t mention the commotion caused by a tweet from The Onion that I’m sure most of you heard about, especially as Twitter was raging over it last night, after the Oscars. I won’t repeat what was said here (I already did that last night on Facebook and Twitter). A quick search will tell you everything you need to know.

I really didn’t know how to respond to it. I think I was just left speechless. I understand The Onion’s edgy satirical commentary, and they’re usually quite funny; but this one I think crossed the line, and they’re paying for it right now, because I know they’re being bombarded with emails, tweets, on the Facebook page, articles have already been written, slamming them, etc. I heard they actually had to shut down their “Contact Us” page on their website last night, because on the deluge.

Something tells me they’ll likely be issuing a public statement in response soon, if they haven’t already. Or maybe not…

With all that said, what were your highlights or low-lights from last night?

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Agent K

I believe that Joaquin Phoenix should have won for Best Actor.


I had problems with both Lincoln and Django Unchained, but Tommy Lee Jones was robbed!!! I didn't have any other surprises per say. I'm glad Argo was a big winner b/c it was a good film. MacFarlane was… interesting. There were some funny moments though. And the live broadcast was NOT a good idea. That's my three cents.


The young girl shouldn't have been in the audience with Seth hosting…

Never noticed or cared before, but young actors REALLY should be in a dressing room or lounge somewhere when there is an "edgy" host….

just poor taste for her to be in the front row when bootleg Peter Brady is making boob jokes, and other juvenile attempts at humor

Justin W

Also, what's everybody impression on Seth McFarlane last night?

Justin W

I thought Speilberg was going to win Best Director for Lincoln, but I really don't mind Ang Lee winning for Life of Pi. After Life of Pi started racking up awards even with categories people thought it wasn't going to win in, I kinda saw it coming.


Shocker: Everything about Life of Pi. Too much ado about absolutely nothing. I feel asleep on Sinbad and his magic carpet.

My who is THAT moment: Who was the skinny old lady who sang the closing curtain song? What's her claim to fame? It certainly IS NOT singing. And Seth MacFarlane was the worst-est of worst hosts of ALL time. Who is that guy, anyway?

My I don't get it moments: I don't understand the fuss over Argo nor Life of Pi. If I was voting, they'd be in my bottom. All the rest I'd throw in the air with the hope that Flight would land on top (I have a personal connection with the subject matter, so sue me). But Silver Lining Playbook and Les Miserable were my favorites.

My "yeah" that's right moments: Jennifer Hudson's singing made me smile. That one chick, the one who won best actress, finally got the memo. She quickly walk to the mic, said her phony thank yous in 50 words or less, and then, got the hell off the stage. Yep, this time she did it right.

The most sincere acceptance speeches: Ben Affleck and the screenwriter for Argo.

The most surprisingly funny speech. Daniel Day Lewis

Refreshing appearance: Quvenzhane Wallis with her open and honest child's heart.

Who's your barber?: Denzel and Jamie Foxx

My "something is wrong" moment: The Samuel Jackson and Robert Downey Jr. skit was a mess. It appeared as if somebody was stepping on somebodies toes and nobody knew who was suppose to say what or when they was suppose to say WHATEVER they were suppose to say. Yeah, figure that out.

My snub award: No, it's not Ben Affleck. It's Samuel Jackson's performance in Django.

And by the way, I never made it through Zero Dark Thirty. I couldn't find any reason to finish that movie. And, looking back, Along with Samuel Jackson, I received the most pleasure from Robert DeNiro's performance.


I'm so thrilled for Life of Pi's showing and ecstatic that Ang Lee won for Best Director. His talent is beyond measure.


Last night OFFICIALLY made Argo the most overrated film of the year. Womp…


Happy for Tarantino. Yes the last 15 mins of Django was a little weak but the 2 Hours and 30 mins of pure magic more than makes up for it and that is why he won. The fact that Django has made 380 million world wide might have help. People just love that film.


Not sure if Tarantino had any shot at "best director," given that he wasn't even nominated!
Ang Lee's win really shouldn't be a surprise: his body of work shows that he's mastered the roles of visualist, dramatist, cross-cultural observationist, with a commercial sensibility to boot. Lee may not be the pure painter of say, Wong Kar Wai, or (for better or worse) peddle the singular auteurist vision of QT, but he's sort of become the Spielberg in the age of globalization.

Beasts had no chance whatsoever. We all know how the Academy works (thanks to N. Finke's snarky commentary, ha).

And Argo's win was less about nationalist pride and more about painting Hollywood's "social conscience" in a self serving, self congratulatory light, I think.


I am so happy for Django right now. It's QT best reviewed film Since Pulp Fiction. It his a massive Boxoffice Hit. 160 million and still going. Congrats to Tarantino on his win last night. You made one hell of a movie and its great to see the big success of it.


Zero Dark Thirty is a travesty, and everyone involved in its making should be ashamed of themselves for making such a politically disgusting movie. So I'm happy it had to split its only award. I'd be happier if it wasn't nominated in the first place.

I wasn't really surprised by anything else except Tarantino and Ang Lee. I'm happy for Lee. I don't think Tarantino deserved it, but it's kind of weird that he's one of the best screenwriters and directors around and until last night had never won an award for either. I don't know why Justin W says Hollywood loves him when he has how many masterpieces under his belt and had no Oscars to show for it.


Zero Dark Thirty was the best movie I saw. Since it created so much panic one might even consider it an "important" movie. Its not the All Quiet of the Western Front of the War on Terror but it definitely opens the door.

Justin W

Zero Dark Thirty was my fav film out the Best Picture bunch, but I knew there was no way in hell that it was going to win Best Picture. Since Argo was my 2nd fav film nominee, I really didn't mind. I really didn't mind any of the films winning Best Pic besides Django, Amour, and Les Mis.

Agreed that Zero Dark Thirty should have won Best Original Screenplay. It was simply a better written script and tighter script than Django even though they are about the same length. As you said, the script just fell apart towards the end but hey, the Academy loves Tarantino so I wouldn't say that I'm completely surprised.

I felt that Best Cinematography shouldn't even have gone to Life of Pi. I think the film with the Best Cinematography was The Master and it wasn't even nominated. Out of the nominees, Skyfall should have won IMO.

For Best Supporting Actor, I thought that De Niro and Phillip Seymour Hoffman were miles better in their performances than Waltz, but once again the Academy loves Tarantino so it is what it is.

These are my quick thoughts. Ill add some more later.

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