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ISA of the Day: AFM Interview With Producer & Independent Distribution Maverick Mark Damon

ISA of the Day: AFM Interview With Producer & Independent Distribution Maverick Mark Damon

“If you don’t succeed in the field of your dreams, you
may one day succeed in the field you never dreamed of.  That’s the story of my career.” 
Mark Damon, CEO
and Chairman of Foresight Unlimited

Mark Damon is a film industry
innovator and revolutionary who challenged the big studio system in the late
1970s and forever changed the world of international film distribution.

Damon spent years as a typecast cowboy in Italian Westerns, but at the age of 40, decided to leave it
all behind to work for an independent Italian distributor.  This bold career change shot him to
incredible heights in his film career and resulted in the creation of a new business structure that empowered independent distributors to take the business of big films into
their own hands. 

At the age of 81, he is a
vibrant and inspirational leader who continues to create new roads and ways of
doing business in film.  

Mark shares his journey of how he transitioned from his days as
a cinema cowboy to being the film mogul he is today:  

How did you enter film sales & distribution?

I needed a change. I had been
an actor for the first twenty years of my career.  I was a New York stage actor, and studied with some of the
finest acting teachers like Lee Strasberg and Sanford Meisner. 

I went to Italy when I was
about 28, and they put me into Westerns. I was surprised, because I had never
ridden a horse in my life. Cowboys had to be tall and blond, and I’m not that
tall. I had very dark hair at the time, and they said, “It doesn’t matter.
You’re American.” I said ok and learned to ride a horse. Every film I did, I
got hurt, because I did all my own stunts, and I became an Italian Western
star. That lasted for about thirteen years.

When I was forty, I had met the
woman who I wanted to marry, so I had to do something serious. Westerns were
going out of style, and I was typecast as a cowboy. I needed a way to make
money, because the roles were fewer and fewer. I quit after I finished my
fiftieth film as a star.

It was 1973, and I was living
in Rome at the time. I met an Italian distributor, and said, “ I want to work
for you. I want to learn something else.” 
He said, “You want to work for us? You’re Mark Damon, the movie star!”
They offered me a thousand dollars a month, and I learned distribution as an
Italian distributor.

They really wanted me because
they thought I knew everyone in Hollywood, and I could get them bigger
pictures. At the time, all the independent distributors would buy a picture for
ten or fifteen thousand dollars. They had no access to big pictures with big
stars because the studios had control of that.
 

“One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest”: The One That Got
Away

I had never worked for anyone
before except for movie producers, so I wanted to show my new bosses that I
could really perform. I said “look, there’s a picture they’re making in Seattle
Washington called ‘One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest’, and the star just happens
to be a good friend of mine. We used to be roommates.” I said, “I can get that
picture,” so I flew to Washington. 

I met with the producer Saul
Zaentz, and hung out with Jack who said, “Yeah, he’ll give ya the picture. It’s
ok.” I made a nice offer – $400,000 for Italy.  Zaentz said he’d get back to me, and after about a week, I
called him, and he said, “I’m sorry, but we’ve sold it to United Artists.” I
said, “Why???” He said, “Because I could also sell Spain, Germany and France at
the same time.”  I was destroyed. I
failed in the eyes of my bosses, and so then I became determined that this
would never happen again.
 

The Fight Against The Big Studios begins…

I contacted my distributor
friends in various European territories and said that we have to buy in mass. We
have to fight the studios, because they robbed us of this great picture. We
have to show that independents can distribute better than studios – I was
convinced of that. Private distributors would put up their own hard earned
dollars to buy a picture. They’d take more care of the picture because they
were more at risk. They would change campaigns from what might only work in the
U.S. to fit the cultural tastes of the Italian market or the German market etc.

I came to LA and started
a campaign – which lasted for years – in which I fought the studios. I went to
all the producers who made studio pictures to convince them of the independent
route.

One of the first I convinced
was Arnon Milchan, who founded New Regency. He gave me a film called “Once Upon
A Time in America.” (1984), directed by Sergio Leone. That was the first big
picture that was made available to independent distributors. And that was the
beginning. That broke the ice. Arnon told everyone that they were crazy not to
go with me.

I then worked with Peter
Guber at Casablanca Record and Filmworks. One of our pictures “Endless Love”
(1981) opened in Japan, and one week later we got a $600,000 check for
overages.  Peter Guber went into
Universal, put the check on their table and said, “This is how it works with
the independents. We don’t get this from you, so I’m only going independent
from now on.”

In 1983, we did more overseas
business than any single major studio, and we had won the battle. We were the
first ones to turn contracts into collateral that banks would fund. We said to
the banks, ‘Look, these are good contracts. You may not give us 100%, but give
us 50%.” That was the start of film financing through independent distributor contracts
with minimum guarantees.

The ‘Crossing Model’ of the Big Studios vs. The ‘Uncrossing Model’ of the Independent Distributors 

My whole thing was don’t just
get the minimum guarantee. It’s possible to make money over and above that,
especially when pictures are uncrossed.

When you have a studio
releasing a picture, all the moneys from all the different territories including
the U.S. go into a pot. Some territories might lose money, and some make money, so
it wipes itself out. That’s what you call crossing. Everything is intertwined. 

We keep it uncrossed, which
means every territory stands on its own. So if a picture does well in Germany,
but doesn’t do well in France, we’ll see moneys from Germany. If we combine
that with the losses from France, we’ll see nothing. So that was the whole
thing that I was telling people, is go independent and uncross. That was a
campaign that went on for about seven years, until we proved that the independents
could work as well as and better than the studios.

It got to the point where
some guys at the studios like Universal and Paramount came to me and said,
“Mark, you’re out of business. We like you. We’re friends, but you’re a danger
to us.” That made me even more determined.
 

The Inspirational Takeaway 

If you don’t succeed in the
field of your dreams, you may one day succeed in the field you never dreamed
of.  That’s the story of my career.
I succeeded only partially in the first 20 years, and during the following 20
years in the business, I succeeded to the extent that I desired. I was able to
introduce a new way of doing business. 

Many people say I invented
this whole business, and if it weren’t for me, there might not be a foreign
sales business today. That’s silly. If I hadn’t done it, somebody else would
have. It was just easier for me because I was an actor. I didn’t know any
better. I said, “None of this makes any sense. Why can’t we change it?” I came
in with fresh ideas.  If there’s
something inspirational here, it’s what can be achieved if you come to a
situation with no baggage, no preconceived notions while remaining open to all
possibilities.

How do you feel about current changes in the business
structure of distribution?

I can only think of it in
terms of the projects that I get involved with. I’ve been in this business for
about 40 years now. I don’t look at the other companies to try and figure out
what they’re doing. 
 

Do you still have the same passion and drive as you
did twenty years ago?

I’ve basically done it all.
It doesn’t ever bore me, as long as I can find new ways of bringing together
projects that might never see the light. That’s what keeps me going, and it’s what
keeps me alive.

Learn more
about Mark Damon and Foresight Unlimited.


Mark’s Biography, From Cowboy to Mogual, was covered by SydneysBuzz November 2010.

 

 

 

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