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Listen: 44-Minute Talk With Jennifer Lawrence About ‘Joy,’ Working With David O. Russell, Gender Inequality, And More

Listen: 44-Minute Talk With Jennifer Lawrence About 'Joy,' Working With David O. Russell, Gender Inequality, And More

As you’ve heard countless times this month, Jennifer Lawrence and David O. Russell share a deeply creative and collaborative working relationship, built upon working together in “Silver Linings Playbook,” “American Hustle,” and now “Joy.” But that’s not to say there isn’t friction, as Lawrence explains in a lengthy chat with NPR, but it always leads to the right results.

“…basically everything David and I argue about … that I think is unnecessary — ‘David, I don’t want to talk about the scene. I don’t want you to go through the whole movie with me, I know what the movie is about! Let’s go! I don’t want to listen to this song [to prepare for the role]’ — when I see the movie and I see what he’s doing and how he’s put everything together, I’m always wrong. It’ll always change something in some way that I didn’t know,” she said.

Indeed, the actress doesn’t just make her voice known on set. For much of the year, she has been vocal about gender gap when it comes to income equality in Hollywood, and Lawrence shared more of her thoughts on the issue.

“I was aware of gender inequality — of the 21 percent general pay gap between men and women — and when that [Sony] hack happened and I saw those numbers, I really didn’t look at that and say, ‘Something unfair was done to me.’ I think that it’s very possible when we’re talking about this gender bias that it also exists in us as women,” she said. “That we, it’s very possible, as individuals, are doing this to ourselves, that we have a historical, global reputation that isn’t being a baller or a badass or being aggressive, that’s not attractive to do those things. … If I’m having these feeling and it’s my own kind of mentality that’s getting in my own way, and these statistics are inarguable, maybe I’m not the only woman who feels this way. I figured if I had a voice I should use it in case there are other women out there that are not getting paid or not asking for money the way that they should be.”

It’s an interesting, wide-ranging chat, so take a break from wrapping presents and listen below. “Joy” opens on December 25th.

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