With a cast that includes Laura Haddock ("Upstairs Downstairs"), Blake Ritson ("The Crimson Petal and the White"), Lara Pulver ("Sherlock") and Alexander Siddig ("Cairo Time"), the series blends period facts with touches of fantasy and unapologetically crowd-pleasing scandal, sex and occasional sword fights. "Downton Abbey" this is not -- nor is it Goyer's first venture onto the small screen. He was a co-creator and showrunner for ABC's "FlashForward" and a writer and executive producer on Spike's "Blade: The Series," though the premium drama seems a more natural realm for his vision. Indiewire spoke with Goyer in January about "Da Vinci's Demons," which premieres this Friday, April 12th at 10pm on Starz.
How do you see the aesthetic of the show? There's something almost steampunky about it, except it's before that era. What would you call that?
A graphic novel approach. It's heightened history -- history but viewed through a modern prism. Some of the musical cues, we've got an electric guitar, and some of the visual iconography of the show is definitely more modern. One of the things I had to wrestle with as a director was how to depict the world as Da Vinci sees it, how to get inside his head. I came up with this thing called "Da Vinci vision" -- we based it on his actual drawings and we paused time and go inside stuff. It's sort of x-ray vision as done through his sketches. It's stylized. We're not sitting there saying we're a Discovery Channel show and this is exactly how it happened. He was a bigger than life character, so I think that necessitates a bigger than life storytelling style.
Da Vinci's an incredible painter, an amazing inventor and happens to be great at sword fighting -- are there difficulties in writing a character who's so good at everything?
Sure. I think the biggest challenges on the show is that the guy was so smart that the mysteries and puzzle-solving have to be smart. He was very quick on his feet and constantly working on four cylinders and dealing with four subject matters at one time. We wanted the show to feel that way as well, so that you could watch it but also go back and say "Oh my god, I missed that." They're hard to write, they're complicated. It's definitely the most challenging thing I've ever written.
The show as its own mythology to unveil -- what can you say about its larger arc?
When you ask people about Da Vinci, they think of secret societies and mysteries. He embedded a lot of coding in his paintings, we know that, he wrote in mirror writing, things in code, nobody knows entirely why. Mysteries and secret societies are synonymous with Da Vinci, so I felt that in any action adventure show with him, we wouldn't be honoring the audience if we didn't have a certain component of that. Also I just like that kind of stuff, I think it's fun. He gets involved with a historical mystery called the Sons of Mithras, which supposedly Plato and Aristotle were a part of.
They were kind of the original secret society, and without revealing too much, there's something they've been searching for called the Book of Leaves. I describe the show as a cross between "The Borgias," "Indiana Jones" and "Sherlock" -- the Book of Leaves is Da Vinci's Lost Arc. Every hero needs a quest, and that's the thing he's searching for. He's also trying to figure out who his mother was. There's a lot of mystery in real life and debate about who she was. He had photographic memory but he couldn't remember his mother's face. Things get darker, but also crazy -- it's the first time I've ever worked in cable, so it's fun to be completely unfettered, to do whatever I want and to have total creative freedom. It's just a rarity.
On that note, there's always been speculation about Da Vinci's sexuality -- and the show seems to have a fairly pan-sexual approach to sex.
Historically, Florence at the time was like that. It was a very liberated society. Florence was a republic, it was a democracy, which was incredibly rare at that time in the world. Florence was in ways a more liberal place than modern day is right now. There are things that were accepted in Florence that were not accepted today. We're not gonna shy away from that. Da Vinci was arrested a few times [for sodomy], he was put on trial quite a few times. We're not gonna shy away from any of that in the first season, we're gonna be dealing with all of that.
At the same time that there are all these progressive aspects to Florence, we see someone hanged essentially because he's Jewish.
One of the challenges is that a lot of incredible things were invented and made possible during the Renaissance era, but something like 90% of the population believed in demons, in spirits and things like that. People believed that Lorenzo Medici had an imp trapped in his ring that he could sic on people and it could kill them. How do you wrestle with all of that? It's a time when people were hung for being Jewish or being Turkish. There's a line in the second episode -- "When fools are in doubt, they simply kill a Jew." One of the things we're trying to depict is that Lorenzo Medici was an incredible character, but he was capable of extreme violence. One of the great things about cable television is that everyone doesn't have to be lily white. You can depict conflicted characters in a way that a lot of movies shy away from these days. I like telling stories of imperfect people because most people are imperfect.