[As the question is asked, Lisecki happens to be playing with his butter knife, sliding it through his hair like it's a hair clip.] It's trying to do stuff like that, seeing if it works. Somebody asked me that at Castro. I was feeling tired and it was at the end of the Q&A, so I snapped, "Did you not hear me say I grew up gay in the Bronx?" I learned to act out of the birth canal: From the beginning I was all [takes on a deep voice], "Hey, what's up! I'm straight" But it came from my family. They're crazy, Irish-y, Bronx drunk types. They're all naturally storytellers. I'm probably the only one who's pursuing it hard core, as a full-time career. In an environment like that, you had to be loud to be noticed. It's something about growing up poor in a neighborhood that's not the best, you have to spin things as comedy.
There's a difference between kids who grew up with money and go to get their MFA in Film and make depressing movies. People like me see too much early. You learn how to re-interpret things that are too much. Native New Yorkers are storytellers in their own way. They try to top each other with the stories they tell. We were all natural embellishers.
How did you become a filmmaker then?
I went to school for theater, I did a lot of downtown theater. But after a while, spaces were not affordable. I was doing very independent theater. We put so much work into these pieces, but after three or four weeks, your run would be over and you wouldn't have anything to show for it. We did take one play to LA and then to an HBO theater festival. We tried to sell that as a pilot. The audience becomes very limited. More people saw my first short film that have ever seen my plays. I shot it myself, recorded it myself, me and Sarita [the actress in "Woman in Burka"] made it up as we go along. I was gonna go to grad school, but I realized it would be smarter for me to teach myself along the way. I have access to production equipment to practice around with at my day job [working in actors' management]. It certainly helped me make the short. It helps to have a day job.
I know you worked with a lot of your friends in this film, a lot of people who you worked with over the years, in theater and elsewhere. Is it important to you to know who you're working with?
I have to make films with people I enjoy being around. I didn't want to be surprised in a negative way. I've done plays with a number of people in the cast. There's something to be said for the people who know that acting is a job. My crew was made up completely of other filmmakers who were doing jobs they no longer had to do because they had become more successful. Everyone on the crew was amazing, and everyone on the cast was amazing. It's something really important and I'd like to replicate it each time. It was super important for this, and I got really lucky. I do like actors who are in it for the love of the craft instead of just to be famous or to be in that kind of movie, but these are the kind of people I know. I know the kind of person who are so poor they won't eat well for a month just to stay doing the kind of work they want to do. As a performer, I needed to have people around who I can trust. You can direct your friends and you can tweak and adjust. They already know your voice and the kind of tone you want. Christopher Guest is like the dream mentor, because he has all those amazing people who he always works with who are just so hilarious. I'd like to keep working with the people I've worked with.
And what's next?
I want an HBO show called "Gays." I want Adam Driver [who plays Lena Dunham's hot-and-cold boyfriend on "Girls" and has a role in "Gayby"] to play my boyfriend. I discovered him! [laughs]
I have a script that I wrote before this, that I think I'm going to go back and work on. I think because I have to promote this film and go along with it on the festival circuit, it's so a part of the job, you can't do anything else for the rest of the summer. We're probably gonna have a limited release and the plan is to have it all out by the end of the year. For now, we continue on the path on "Gayby."