I just think we're really hungry for a tribe or a family. I think in America we often go to college in a different town that we grew up in. You have a tribe there in college, and then you get pulled away from that tribe. A lot of people go find a job in another town. So now we're three times removed from our original location or our original tribe. And let's say you partner up and your partner gets a job in San Francisco or something, and you get a job in Tussan. All of a sudden you separate. You are four times removed from your original family and totally alone. And now, I think you don't even have the water cooler of your bad job anymore. In the old days, people used to come by the water cooler and talk, interact and have rituals together. But now so many people work from home. I think we feel incredibly alienated. So the desire to be part of a group and to have shared belief and group think is very appealing, I think.
This translates over to "The East." Is it a hybrid of your first feature... a sequel?
I would say it's revolution to the same sort of cultural stew that we were interested in. I mean "The East" is a totally different movie, but a lot of those themes are still there. When we were writing "Sound of My Voice," Brit wanted to be an actress and I wanted to be a director. But of course you can't just get jobs. So we were teaching ourselves how to write in order to do those things. We had day jobs so we would find writing time in the early mornings, or writing times late at night. We were doing it every day for years. We had no idea whether we could ever actually pull it off, or do it for a living. So there was so much doubt in that time in our lives, and I think that doubt really manifests itself in "Sound of My Voice" as anxiety.
How does it feel to now have that doubt squandered?
That's the beauty of filmmaking; it's extremely humbling, because you do it all over again all the time. Now I have all these doubts about "The East," because no one's seen it.
How have you evolved as a filmmaker since making your debut? Have your sensibilities changed?
I guess I'm just really interested in craft more than ever before. The tailoring of film; mood and tone have always been my favorite quality. With "Sound of My Voice," I was obsessed with the mundane and claustrophobia. Now I'm interested in tailoring. Did you see the Alexander McQueen exhibit at the Metropolitan?
The exhibit blew my mind. I always thought the fashion side was creative and interesting, but I never understood that you could wrestle complex ideas from clothes. When I saw his clothes, I thought this man was a man who was haunted, dealing with his haunted self through the clothes he was making. But the thing that holds it all together is his exquisite tailoring and the craftsmanship behind the dresses. [David] Fincher has that craft. I feel like it isn't a bad idea to devote a lifetime to trying to develop that sense of tailoring
What's it's been like seeing Brit catapult the way that she has?
It's strange because I first met Brit when she was 17, I was aware that I was in the presence of something original and something raw. It makes sense to me that other people would see that too. But she's very good at keeping it discreet, so I think a lot of people that meet her don't necessarily see it. But she opens up to the camera in the stories that she helps tell. I think Brit has a special relationship between her audience and herself, because she's communicating to them on multiple levels. Her performances are so raw, it's as if she has that rawness for them. I think that's nice. It makes sense to me.
I'm proud of her. I think she's got something to offer, and as a result people are connecting to that. It's still on a very small scale.
How has your working relationship with her evolved?
I think that we got it down. We work so closely during writing, that we walk that road together; it's nice to walk the road not alone. All of sudden it's time to prep a movie, and an actor's prep is really different from a director's prep, so we really go on separate roads. And then we meet back up on set, but we're in completely different head-spaces then. At first it's really overwhelming, because you're used to having your partner. At first I didn't understand that on "Sound of My Voice," but on "The East" I understood it's just part of our process.