As Indiewire's Eric Kohn declared in his review, you'd be hard pressed to find a project more "innovative" at the still underway 2013 Toronto International Film Festival than Ned Benson's astonishingly ambitious two-part opus "The Disappearance of Eleanor Rigby." Clocking in at a whopping 190 minutes (each film runs approximately half that length), "Rigby" examines the dissolution of a marriage from the perspectives of both halves of the couple (played by Jessica Chastain and James McAvoy). The husband's section is titled "Him"; the wife's "Her." Audiences in Toronto have been treated to the project in both orders, depending on the day.
Labeled as a "work in progress" cut for its premiere here in Toronto, "Rigby" came to the festival as a question mark only to emerge as one of the true hits of the event with a splashy buy courtesy of The Weinstein Company and stellar word of mouth. Indiewire sat down with Chastain and first-time feature filmmaker Benson to discuss the film's 10-year journey to the screen, and the Toronto reaction to the film.
This film's been 10 years in the making for the two of you. I caught a press screening of it the morning following its world premiere where I heard you got very emotional, Jess.
Chastain: I was very emotional trying not to cry. It’s so embarrassing. We’ve all known each other for 10 years. The past two years, being here is shocking. “Take Shelter” and “Coriolanus” were here two years ago. So my movies have not been out for very long. My life, the way it is now, it was a very quick thing. Sometimes people people think I’m used to it. It’s still very new to me.
It’s been a wonderful two years. It feels like my dreams have been coming true. But we all spent so much time going to see Hitchcock movies at the Aero theater, and Isabelle Huppert [who plays Chastain's mother in the film] movies at the Ludlow, and dreaming of someday being in the movies and making films.
Yesterday, to be in an audience of 2,500 people, and to see the reception that it got, and basically see somebody that I love go through the experience that I’ve had for two years, is in a strange way more meaningful than when it happens to you. When you watch it and celebrate it for someone else... I was a wreck.
Benson: I don’t think it hit me till after when were at dinner. I just kind of lost it in front of Jess. It was a pretty special moment. You try to do this for so long. Since the moment I started writing the first one it’s been 10 years in the making. It’s pretty magic to be able to wake up every day and do this for a living.
Chastain: And no one likes to take a chance in the industry. It’s tough to take one on a newbie. I know it as an actor. It took forever to break through.
Benson: First-time filmmaker is a dirty word.
Chastain: Oh my god, it’s like, you want to get a film made? Good luck.
This is a remarkably ambitious directorial debut. What you made you take that leap with Ned, Jess?
Chastain: Well, I chased him down 10 years ago. I won tickets to the Malibu Film Festival when I first moved to Los Angeles. I went to see the shorts and there was an incredible short that he acted in and directed. I went up to him and said, “Sorry, I don’t mean to bother you, but I’m an actress and that was such a moving, beautiful short. Can I have please have my manager send you my reel because I’d really love to work with you someday.” I’d like done a guest spot on “ER.” That’s all I had on my reel! [Laughs] And from that moment we became friends. He came to see me in plays off Broadway.
Benson: It’s crazy when I think about it, because that one moment defined it. It’s why it got made. She was still running around on auditions when I was writing the script. It’s insane that all of a sudden because her career took off this project got to take off too. It’s pretty amazing thing how one moment in your entire career, when you’re fighting to make it happen... we were just two kids trying to make movies.
Chastain: I was at a point in my career where I could help get the movie made. But also this was a very tough movie to get made. There were times when we didn’t think it would happen. There was a weekend when I had one offer that was a huge movie, lots of money, and then this. When I found out that it could happen, then I decided to do this.
I'm glad you chose this.
Chastain: Oh my god, me too!