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Patrick Wilson On Why There Won't Be an 'Insidious 3' and His Love for 'Conjuring' Director James Wan

Photo of Nigel M Smith By Nigel M Smith | Indiewire September 12, 2013 at 10:12AM

After battling a house full of demons in James Wan's hit summer horror show "The Conjuring," Patrick Wilson is back in theaters this Friday the 13th in Wan's second offering of the year -- only this time he's playing the demon. In the sequel to 2010's hit haunted house horror "Insidious," "Insidious: Chapter 2," Wilson reprises his role as husband and father Josh Lambert, who at the end of the first installment inherited the evil spirit that was plaguing his house. In the second entry, which picks up right where the first one left off, Lambert struggles to contain his inner demon before it overtakes him and kills his family.
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The Conjuring

Both the "Insidious" films and "The Conjuring" work in large part thanks to the great ensemble of actors, but it sure helps you have James Wan calling the shots. How has it been witnessing his evolution over the course of your three films together?

I mean, look, I think with his career he took a big jump with "Insidious" to where he was able to challenge himself and redefine the genre where "Saw" sent movies into this grotesque violent nature, and that was never scary to me. With "Insidious" he wanted to push himself and push convention, and "The Conjuring" moved him right along, and this movie is bold in a different way. No matter how much you talk about actors in movies, it's not an actors' medium; this movie's all James. James is one of the very few guys who not only can master a genre, but in all different spectrum of the genre. I mean you're talking "Saw" and "The Conjuring" and "Insidious 2," They're just completely different films and sides of horror. So even within the genre he's pushed his limits. So it's no surprise to me that "Fast and the Furious 7" was thrown his way, and it's no surprise that he can do comedy, he can do a ton of things. He knows how to work a film and work an audience, and that's reflected in the choices that he makes.

How would you describe your relationship?

I don't know, I mean it's hard to say why you like your buddy. He knows exactly the kind of movie that he wants to make. And when you get there, he's got that balance of being supremely proficient at the movie he wants to make. He knows the lines, he knows the tone, he knows it in his head. But if you're bringing an idea to the table that will make the movie better, he's game for it. To have that sense of focus but be collaborative is a real blessing. He's amazingly ego-free, you just trust him because you know he's gonna bust his tail to make the best movie possible.

I think, from my my side, there's this great reverence for him where it's not like we go and hang out all the time. I mean, I love the guy, we text a lot, we talk a lot, but we have this great working relationship where we bring out the best in each other where I push him and I know he's gonna push me. There's just this commitment to character and story where... Yeah, it's hard to explain, I love the guy, and I would do anything with him, because he's not gonna ask me to do anything, and that's OK. I kept saying, "Listen, I'll drive a smart car in 'Fast and Furious,' it'll be funny," and he's like, "I do not want to bring you around this..." But you know, he's always like, "If it's not worth your time, I'm not gonna ask you." He has a reverence for me that I enjoy and I'm honored by, and I have the same for him. So we'll undoubtedly make many movies together, and they're gonna be good. You know, he wants to push me, he doesn't want to waste my time.

Insidious: Chapter 2

If he were to come to you with a script for "Insidious 3," would you say yes?

Here's the thing, I don't know if he would. I don't know where else you go with Josh Lambert. When you see the film, and see how it ends, it's pretty clear without giving too much away. It took him so much to even want to do a sequel to "Insidious," I felt like I could do a lot more with the character so he was my sort of touchstone, but I just... I don't know where else it could go. I don't know what he could come up with that would make it be interesting for both of us, for me, for Josh Lambert. Like, where else do you go with that guy? He's been through the ringer, and I think the movie sets it up well at the end, to be honest with you. And that's great, that's how it should end.

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