The Celluloid Ceiling: Thoughts From Five Women Who Broke Through

by Peter Knegt (October 22, 2009)
The Celluloid Ceiling: Thoughts From Five Women Who Broke Through
"Bright Star" producer and longtime Jane Campion collaborator Jan Chapman, "Precious: Based on the novel 'Push' by Sapphire" producer Lisa Cortes, "She, A Chinese" director Xiaolu Guo, Finola Dwyer, producer of "An Education," "Kicks" director Lindy Heymann and panel moderator Briony Hanson at "Snipping Away at the Celluloid Closet," a discussion put on at the London Film Festival last night. Photo courtesy of the festival.

Last night at the London Film Festival, to an audience of possibly 90% women, a lively and at times quite provocative discussion went down about a topic that’s come up quite a bit this year - women and filmmaking.  2009 has been seen by many as landmark film for female-directed, written or produced cinema, which certainly finds evidence London’s programming.  To name but a few: Lone Scherfig’s “An Education,” Claire Denis’ “White Material,” Xiaolu Guo’s “She, A Chinese,” Jane Campion’s “Bright Star,” Lindy Heymann’s “Kicks,” Sophie Barthes’ “Cold Souls,” Mia Hansen-Løve’s “Father of My Children,” Catherine Breillat’s “Bluebeard” and Sam Taylor Wood’s “Nowhere Boy.” And in honor of this notable but still stunningly disproportionate trend, the festival put together “Snipping Away at the Celluloid Ceiling,” a panel featuring five women associated with some of those films to discuss whether or not there’s a “sea change” in female-associated filmmaking, and what exactly that characterization means in the first place.

Noted by panel moderator Briony Hanson (director of London’s The Script Factory, a organization which offers programs for developing filmmakers) as “an embarrassment of riches,” the five women consisted of “She, A Chinese” director Xiaolu Guo, “Precious: Based on the novel ‘Push’ by Sapphire” producer Lisa Cortes, “Bright Star” producer and longtime Jane Campion collaborator Jan Chapman, “Kicks” director Lindy Heymann, and Finola Dwyer, producer of “An Education” and chair of the BAFTA film committee.  For a good ninety minutes, they shared their occasionally conflicting views on the state of women in film.  indieWIRE was there, and has compiled a “best-of” compilation of quotes on some topics that were brought into their discussion.

1. Jan Chapman and Lindy Heymann: On If There’s Currently a Sea Change

JC: “I must say its sort of cyclic. I mean, in Australia, five of the twenty-one features that were made this year were made by women. Which is pretty good, unfortunately… I feel like at the moment that it does feel like there are more women directors around. But there’s always this stunning image in my mind, which is when I went with Jane [Campion, the only female winner of the Palme d’Or] to the 60th anniversary of Cannes.  You saw everyone who won a Palme d’Or up on the stage, and there was one woman.  I cannot forget that image. I think we’ve got to face the fact that the percentages are not really in our favor.”

LH: “But there’s very few mediocre female directors. I know that sounds a bit glib, but it’s true. When we talk about male directors, how many of them are actually fantastic!? But then when you look at examples of women… Maybe it’s just that women don’t want to put themselves out there if they don’t feel they are the best.”

A scene from Jan Chapman-produced “Bright Star.” Image courtesy of the London Film Festival.


2. Xiaolu Guo, Lindy Heymann, and Finola Dwyer: On Theme and Subject In Female-Helmed Films (and, Subsequently, Kathryn Bigelow)

XG: “The main problem for me is the theme and the subject of the script. Because when you send the script out, whether you have a female name or a male name, the script is meeting this violent judgement from the financiers. And I do feel some or most of the female writer-directors are much more interior and sensitive about family or love or longing…  And then there’s a very male script, for example the male cliche of big history, political issue, the war, the fight… Myself, I would never write about this. I’m not interested. But the financier is… Popular cinema is so male, and violent. I cannot imagine a female director making ‘Kill Bill,’ and I love ‘Kill Bill,’ but I think it would be so different if a woman made ‘Kill Bill.’”

Moderator Briony Hanson: “Do you think that’s completely true though? Because there are filmmakers like Kathryn Bigelow, who can easier turn her hand to a war movie. I mean, she may approach it in a slightly different way, but…”

XG: “But she has Spielberg behind her. How are we going to get that!?”

LH: “I think something’s happening with women in terms of the kind of stories they want to tell. You know, Kathryn Bigelow, she seems to be out there on her own. But then there’s Catherine Hardwicke as well. Certainly, I wouldn’t mind making a thriller or action film at some point. Why not? But I wonder if to go to financier, and sit in front of, say, ten men in suits… They are going to look at you and go, ‘do we trust her, or do we trust a guy?’ It’s about somehow finding a way to sweep aside everyone’s assumptions I think.”

FD: “Kathryn Bigelow is a great example, but it’s not really a surprise to me that there aren’t a lot of female action directors. I don’t tend to go and see an action film. So they’re not really the stories that I want to tell and I suspect that’s probably true of quite a lot of females. If what [Xiaolu Guo] is saying - that women have a tendency to want to tell stories that are smaller and might not have much of an audience - you know, those films would have problems getting made whether it’s a man or a woman.”


3. Lindy Heymann and Jan Chapman: On Having a Sustainable Career

LH: “You make a film, and you get noticed as a female director or female writer. And then it’s just hell trying ot go on and trying to have a career like Jane Campion’s, for example. I think that’s the big question: How many female directors actually have career making movies, and don’t just do one sporadically.” 

JC: “Jane would agree. We discussed this today, actually. Something seems to happen… I mean, there’s often just as many girls at film school as boys. And even making their first feature… I don’t know what it is that happens. I don’t know whether female directors are slightly more sensitive. I had one director, Cate Shortland, that I worked with on a film called ‘Somersault.’ It was a fabulous film. It’s been a few years now, and she hasn’t made a second one. I know this happens to men too.  When that film won all of the Australian Film Awards - the whole 13 - which you would think is a great thing… but as a result, she had this incredible kick-back from the press about how it wasn’t really that good. And she was terribly hurt. I think, sometimes, to be honest, women take things like that to heart. And find it a little more difficult… It’s tough persevering and fighting on. Maybe we do have to sort of guard ourselves.”

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Is there still a “Celluloid Ceiling” and is it penetrable?

Yes there is, just look at the number of women vs. male directors.
Yes, but it's breaking down and attitudes are evolving.
There probably is, but tough it out and just do it yourself...
No, stop complaining. It's all a myth.
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Mel10 says on October 22, 2009 at 2:26pm

Magnificent story. Wonderful. Thanks!!!!

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