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Interview: Chatting with RZA About Paul Walker, Martial Arts, Gentrification and More in Action Drama ‘Brick Mansions’ (Opens Friday)

Interview: Chatting with RZA About Paul Walker, Martial Arts, Gentrification and More in Action Drama 'Brick Mansions' (Opens Friday)

Coming to theaters on April 25, Brick Mansions is set inside a walled-in maze of housing projects in a dystopian
Detroit, where an undercover cop (Paul
) and an ex-convict (David
) team up to defeat a deadly drug kingpin’s (RZA) plans to devastate the city. 

The action drama is based on the French films District B-13 and
District 13: Ultimatum
which feature Parkour, a kind of stunt popularized by Belle, who co-founded the
style of movement.

Actor, director, composer, and member of the Wu-Tang Clan RZA made time to talk with S&A about his role in
the film as crime lord Tremaine
, from his interest in Parkour to his experience working with co-star
Paul Walker.  

JT: Brick Mansions was one of Paul Walkers last films
before he passed away. How was it working with him?

RZA: Paul was a good dude, a loss to us. Two out of ten
people you meet in this business you may like, as people you want to see again.
He was a man I was looking forward to seeing again and someone I was looking
forward to working with again. It’s sad that he’s not here to enjoy the work
that he brought to the world.

The only good part about a situation like this is that he’s been
captured on film. I have a daughter who loves him. She’s just a big fan of his
and when she heard I was going to do a movie with him she was all geeked out. So
she can still go to the movies and enjoy her crush. I remember being a kid and
I’d watch a TV show like Lucy or even Dick Van Dyke, which was
still on in the 80s, and Mary Tyler
was pretty to me. She was already a 60-year-old woman at the time. Thelma from Good Times; to this day
I still put it on. So this is the magic of film and TV. That’s the blessing of
our job.

JT: You had seen the original
French films that Brick Mansions is
based on. What did you like about those films and what attracted you to
this project?

RZA: It was Parkour. I’m a hip-hop artist so I traveled
around the world for years and I remember when they first were doing it. So to
see it become a movie was cool. I think it was after Ong-Bak, another great
action film that came out of Thailand. Every once in a while there’s a new
action film that comes and changes things, such as Ong-Bak, Chocolate, The
and those moves become the moves of our superheroes.
If you watch the original movie District 13 you’ll see that Parkour made it to James Bond and the Incredible Hulk sequence. But it
started as a small art form.

There’s a movie called The Raid: Redemption. There’s two
parts to it, and now they’re doing an American version. That has a new martial
art called Silat, out of Indonesia.
Now you’re going to see it done by American actors and the American public will
be exposed to it, but for the people that are into that world it’s four years
old already.
So what attracted me to this
movie was a chance to bring Parkour to America. Whether I was involved in the
movie or not, I would’ve gone to the movies to watch this.

Talking to you about all this is like taking a class on martial arts history.

RZA: I’m into it, and I’ve been blessed to work inside
what I love. On TV I’ll be playing a cop this season on Gang Related. I’m not
into that, I’m not a cop, but at the same time I understand the mentality of a cop
in their situation. So I’m trying as an actor to work at what I love as well as
find that push in myself.
Alexander was a push for me. I’m not that guy, anymore. So I just wanted to
express that energy.

JT: Tremaine
has layers. He
s a drug lord, but considers himself a leader of the community and is
opinionated about what goes on there. What did you think of him as a character
when you read the script?

RZA: When Luc
wrote this character I always wondered where he got that energy from.
But when I started becoming the character, I started figuring it out.
Environment makes us how we are. And there’s a scene where he comes up to the
girl (Catalina Denis) and gives her a
soda, and in the script it says he’s impressed with what she does. For me as an
actor, that’s where I figured him out. So giving her the soda, that’s not in
the script.

JT: You improvised that?

RZA: Yeah, as an actor you’ve gotta find that. So I said, give me a couple
of ginger beers. Because of course he’d be drinking ginger beer, he’s got that
Jamaican in him. And the line that I said is, what makes him different than his
boys is that he has knowledge. He’s not the biggest, he’s not the ugliest, he’s
not the typical monster. Why is he the leader? This n****’s got to be the
smartest. When I went into that scene,
that’s when I became him.

JT: Was it difficult getting
out of character?

RZA: It was hard to pull out of character that quick. During
the production of this movie we had a Wu-Tang concert come up and they let me
go to it. It’s on YouTube, people ask me about it. They say, “RZA was
bugging.” I say, “No, I was Tremaine.” It was fun being him. My publicist was there. He was
like, “Bobby, Bobby, save it for the screen.”

JT: Part of the movies plot is about the struggle
between poor people trying to hold onto land and wealthy people coming in to
try to develop it. The gentrification debate is pretty similar to what
s being talked about now in the news.

RZA: It’s happening right here in Echo Park.
[Gentrification] is a two-way street. I grew up in Brownsville, but before the
blacks were in Brownsville it was a Jewish community. So that’s just the natural process of America.
Sometimes it’s negative, sometimes it’s positive. In the case of the Jewish people it
was positive because they got to move out of the projects and buy homes. I can
look at my own family and see that a lot of us have left the projects and are
in brownstones renting. Very few of us can buy. So this is a process that just

JT: So its unavoidable,
in your view?

RZA: It’s part of the system. And we should actually
embrace it and learn how to utilize it. The only way to do that, to me, is to
get back into community. With this generation, you don’t even know your neighbors.

JT: Youve got this
film and Gang Related coming up. You
re acting, directing, composing. What do
you want to do more of, or what do you want to do next?

RZA: I think I’m doing good in film and I want to
continue to grow here. I think this is a perfect outlet for my creative
abilities, especially as a director because that encompasses all mediums. It
means you can write, you can control and set things up, you can get involved
with music. Film is a medium that fulfills all my creative juices.

releases Brick Mansions in theaters on April

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