The most touching storyline
features Fito (Cesar Ramos) and Leo (Gustavo Egelhaaf), two friends who reunite
and become lovers, only to have a conflict arise when Leo wants to remain
closeted and keep their relationship secret.
Ramos, who is straight, gives an
incredibly moving performance in the film as a gay man coming to terms with his same-sex desires. He
spoke with /bent via Skype about
making “Four Moons.”
Gary M. Kramer: How
did you get involved in this film?
Cesar Ramos: I
met Sergio, the director, at a film festival and developed a friendship. He
said he’d like to cast me in his new movie. Was he flirting? Was it a joke? I
said OK, let me know. When Sergio started his production, he handed me the
script and asked me to do the role of Fito. It was quite risky. I liked the
script and the story, and he convinced me of his vision.
GMK: You have a
pretty graphic sex scene where Fito and Leo are trying to have anal sex for the
first time. It’s awkward and funny and sexy. That couldn’t have been easy to
reading that scene! I was like, Oh, My God! How are we going to shoot that!? There’s
no way to get ready. I just found the balls to do it, and I’m proud of it. I
love the scene and I’m glad I did it.
GMK: The film plays
with various aspects of masculinity, from sissy boys to effeminate men, to guys
who aren’t gay (but are paid to be) to Leo who wants to stay closeted. What do
you think about the characters and how they are developed?
CR: In the case of the characters of Fito and Leo, we had to work together
on the various stages of emotions. It was convenient that Gustavo and I have
known each other for ten years. This was his first film. We used our friendship
to tell the story and become involved in the characters. We wanted to provide the
audience with a love story.
GMK: How did you work
on telling the arc of Fito’s story?
CR: He has very
human emotions. We’ve all been through the same feelings—
of being unloved or unimportant or humiliated—but in
different situations. It’s not an alien feeling to me, so I can relate to that.
The conflict Fito has with his mother is something many young people
experience. I just worked to make the emotions honest.
GMK: What about
Fito’s relationship with his mother? The scene where Fito is heartbroken and she
comforts him is the most moving scene in the film.
CR: I was
embraced by Monica, the actress who played my character’s mom. Every scene we
did together was strong. When we shot the scene, I was charged with emotion,
and Monica had the right energy. She was very giving and then it just flowed.
We had an intimate moment. She made me feel protected, and it took the wave and
rode it. It’s powerful, because she’s made a decision to be there for her son
and support and accept him.
GMK: Fito and his
mother bond watching telenovelas together. Do you like or watch telenovelas?
CR: Not at all. I
did watch them as a kid with my mom. I didn’t go back to them until I wanted to
be an actor, and then I saw what the guys did. I did one for teenagers. I tried
to do one [later] and it didn’t work out. When I started in the business, I was
repulsed by those projects. They are quick, and not as enjoyable as work on a
movie. I respect the actors of Mexican telenovelas–it’s a whole genre—it’s
just not my genre.
GMK: Leo and Fito
have dinner one day. Leo asks Fito, what kind of music does he like? What books do you like to read? What would
you answer as César to those questions if you were on a date?
CR: [Laughs]. I
love music from the ‘50s and ‘60s. The Supremes, Los Panchos, Elvis, of course,
the Beatles, and the whole ‘90s crap Alanis, Eminem. Now I like Bon Iver. With
Spotify, you click and you discover. Right now I am reading He’s Back, about Hitler waking up in a
park in Germany in 2012. He’s in uniform, and a Turkish guy who owns a kiosk
takes him home and gives him a place to live, and then he gets a TV show. It’s
GMK: Are you a
CR: I am. My wife
and I both work at home when we’re not making films [she’s in the industry]. Every
30 minutes, I give her kiss and a hug and a little massage. I’m constantly tender.
I can’t help it. I wonder if it’s too much. But she says it doesn’t bother her.