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‘Goliath’ Executive Producer David E. Kelley on Billy Bob Thornton and Amazon – IndieWire’s TURN IT ON Podcast

Also in the Oct. 13 episode: "Surviving Compton" producer responds to Dr. Dre's complaints and how Michel'le struggled with opening old wounds; "Fresh off the Boat"; "Berlin Station" review.

Billy Bob Thornton, Maria Bello and David E. Kelley, “Goliath”

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David E. Kelley was one of TV’s biggest hitmakers in the 1990s, with four shows on the air simultaneously at one point. (In 1999, he even pulled off the unthinkable feat of winning both the Emmys for Outstanding Drama – “The Practice” – and Comedy – “Ally McBeal.”)

But after a string of disappointments in the broadcast arena, Kelley is reinventing himself as a producer for streaming and premium cable. First up: “Goliath,” a legal drama starring Billy Bob Thornton as a down-in-his-luck lawyer who takes on a shady mega-corporation and its equally gigantic law firm.

Starring: Billy Bob Thornton, William Hurt, Olivia Thirlby Channel: Amazon Video Premieres: October 14, 2016


“I think the ability to be a little darker and to be a little more specific with what this show is about,” Kelley tells us. “There is a burden in broadcast. I think, you’ve got to appeal to a lot of folks in order to survive. In the streaming world and in the cable world, you can succeed with more of a cult favorite. Without the burden of having to appeal to everybody, you can just be darker, more specific and more patient.”

READ MORE: David E. Kelley Has Given Up on the Broadcast Networks, Partly Because His Last Show ‘Wasn’t Very Good’

In the interview, Kelley also explains another reason why he has given up on broadcast: His last experience, with CBS’ “The Crazy Ones,” was a disappointing one, he says.

Also on this edition of IndieWire’s “Turn It On,” Thinkfactory founder/CEO Leslie Greif tells us about the making of “Surviving Compton: Dre, Suge & Michel’le,” including how the producers tapped Michel’le to appear as a narrator of sorts through the film. He also responds to Dr. Dre’s complaints, and shares how difficult the process was for Michel’le in reexamining some old wounds.

Meanwhile, senior editor Hanh Nguyen looks at the importance of the stories on ABC’s “Fresh Off the Boat,” and critic Ben Travers discusses Epix’s new spy drama “Berlin Station.”

Listen below!

READ MORE: ‘Surviving Compton: Dre, Suge & Me’ Trailer: Lifetime Tells Michel’le’s Side of the N.W.A. Story

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